My frustration with the move to India is that it further silos the engineering team into a much narrower cultural mindset. That depends on the composer you use. Can you still down save as .idml? Meanwhile, I really think we need to put pressure on Adobe. My current frustrations lie in a different area, one that even affects USB mouse clicks. Think thin phones and laptops (Apple). Its not merely that they dont listen to your complaints nor even that they feel they should not have to listen to those complaints. premium content i wanted to inform you i am merely a beginner and may take a bit longer to process any new topics and excuse that. The InDesign CC 2017 SDK was actually published in the new InDesign Developer Forum some weeks ago, but was not posted in the OLD developer forum. Thanks. They know it is a cash cow, generating ample income from a host of seats at any company that needs to created printed material, including business far removed from publishing. Plugins add many features that Adobe has not bothered to include, but I rely on them heavily and literally cannot work without them. The only way to enable it is with font-feature-settings, using the hkna feature tag. The InDesign CC 2015.2 update brought a contextual menu for alternate glyphs and for OpenType fractions. Note that this feature may apply to runs of more than two glyphs, and would not be used in monospaced fonts. Thanks Matt. 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Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. Apple executives seem to lack the expertise to understand that going to wireless introduces a host of issues with noise and interference between devices. When I use fonts that I know support OpenType fractions, it works as expected. Quand on veut le beurre, largent du beurre et la crmire en sus, on devient crmier !. In particular, stylistic sets (discussed below) were very difficult to use ( Figure 4 ). This feature adjusts the amount of space between glyphs, generally to provide optically consistent spacing between glyphs. Make sure you have restored your InDesign preferences. I still use Acrobat XI because I want the ability to undock comments (I get corrections in PDF format and if I leave the comments on the side of my vertical monitor I cant read the text if I undock, then I can put the comments on another screen and then read everything perfectly). I cant get it to work with brand new or older files, yet my co-workers dont have the same problem. To enable it with the font-variant property or font-variant-east-asian subproperty, use the value jis90. Whether the laws of Europe should be determined by a bureaucracy in Brussels or by a countrys citizens is another (hence Briexit) is another. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TXmF1yu08sBuYMVFUWCkSGyTvL7MVFHW/view?usp=share_link, Slow Performance and Unexpected behaviors, Do not sell or share my personal information, Shows open type fractions available in the glyphs panel, All OTF features disabled (enclosed in square brackets), Select fraction left to right > hover selection > click the "O" > "OpenType properties are not applicable". Like ligatures (though not strictly a ligature feature), contextual alternates are commonly used to harmonize the shapes of glyphs with the surrounding context. Theyd sell more Macs and iPads as a result. Elsewhere, it doesnt seem to care what savvy buyers think. Avec, comme tous les softs, des manques et des dfauts ! This article provides you with all you need to know about using OpenType font features in CSS. (I have to keep all versions installed; still have CS6 clunking along). Thanks, Barb. OpenType features are like secret compartments in fonts. TheAvenirfont family is not provided by theAdobe Fontsservice. You can find an extensive discussion of them here: https://michaelkummer.com/2015/10/08/troubleshooting-os-x-bluetooth-issues/. But they only care about sexy features that increase their stock price. Example of JIS83 forms in action, set inKozuka Mincho Pr6n: This feature replaces default (JIS90) Japanese glyphs with the corresponding forms from the JIS X 0208-1983 (JIS83) specification. In area after area, a self-aware elite regards itself as superior to the great mass of people, looking down on them and sneering at their desires to have a say in their lives. (Source.). There are a huge number of possible features. Nor is that all I am doing. Some fonts will have one or more of these features enabled by default (kerning and default ligatures are common examples), while others are left to the designer or developer to choose to enable in specific scenarios. I just used it on a book with 500 pages and thousands of endnotes in addition to hundreds of footnotes. When a general hospital in a major city goes into a crisis, there are numerous other hospitals in the city where patients can go. Figure 7: Contextual menus are now available for ordinals and ligatures. Adornments we use already include the little blue box (Anchored Object Control) and yellow box (Live Corners) already on our frames. Ligatures Common/standard ligatures (liga) Thats where you should put your thoughts about the direction of Adobe/InDesign, etc. Or what about 13. I agree also with Raphael that footnote features are best built into the software itself. Seems to happen in the Paragraph pane too. Also see hkna. When that rolled out it was immediately obvious that it need to be an option (binary, if not incremental controls). Get rid of every extra pixel and give me more room for my work, please. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. This feature replaces a sequence of glyphs with a single glyph (a ligature), which is preferred for typographic purposes. They started out as a type company but lost their identity and their soul many years ago not to mention that they are now practically a 100% Indian company. Figure 2: You can now create both traditional single-column footnotes or footnotes that span the width of a frame. I can only assume it wants stupid customers because the also do what theyre told. This is an elite that does not admit error. But, then I would still be subject to the "constantly changing" aspect. Fortunately there are some very talented scripters out there, and I have bought a number of Ariel Waldens commercial script and often use Peter Kahrels endnotes scripts. A few live in luxury in a central city. When I highlight a character that has alternates and click on the opentype icon, it displays the error message opentype properties are not available. InDesign CC 2017 builds on earlier OpenType enhancements, and its now possible to see contextually which features can be applied, and to apply them directly. The vertical kana alternates feature isdisabled by default, and is not supported in any version of Safari on Mac OS or iOS. Figure 3: You can override the document footnotes setting in the new Footnotes tab of the Text Frame Options dialog box. Setting a value of none sets font-variant-ligatures to none and all other properties to their initial value. I totally understand the frustration some folks are feeling, but I also believe in the power of competition to bring out the best in companies. Turning on each additional set adds new alternates. The full widths feature isdisabled by default, and is not supported in any version of Safari on Mac OS or iOS. Its not just the ID users are funding the initial development of those products. Sometimes a single-click does one thing. -Its extremely hard to pinpoint cursor control with my Intuos3 pen Im on the latest driver and have the settings set to default. The example below is showing several different aspects of working with alternate characters. The only way to enable it is with font-feature-settings, using the vkrn feature tag. Theyre forced to sign up for on-line wood and nail suppliers at $X a month. As InDesign is a bread and butter app, why is Adobe so disinterested in developing this app further? This feature, in specified situations, replaces default glyphs with alternate forms which provide better joining behavior. Performance & security by Cloudflare. I very much doubt it! Selecting Fractions in the contextual menu could convert every combination of number-slash-number to a fractioneven dates such as 9/11. Example of discretionary ligatures in action, set inWarnock Pro. Its too bad this thread has turned into such an Adobe gripefest, but the fact is that just this same week we professional Mac users found out that Apple seems to be ignoring our needs (new iMac? Things are moving. The hitch, as they repeated told me, was getting the funding from Adobe to make those improvements. In particular, stylistic sets (discussed below) were very difficult to use (Figure 4). To enable it with thefont-variantproperty orfont-variant-ligaturessubproperty, use the valuediscretionary-ligatures. If Adobe isnt going to provide features, and we need to spend hundreds of dollars on plugins, they could at least let the developers in on what theyre doing so we can work right away when they release the software. Solution: If OpenType PS is required, remove IBM . Amazon is using fat profits earned by underpaying authors to sell its Kindle and Fire devices below cost, much like income from ID funds these flashy new Adobe products. Clicking on the OpenType adornment opens a contextual menu showing a list of applicable attributes. Placed the otf file in /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts. If so, is there a "tried-and-true" proprietary (I guess that's the opposite of open source, right?) Instead they focused on iPad apps, and what a total waste of time that was! Think glitzy new visual manipulation tools (Adobe). Thank you in advance. The display will also attempt to highlight which characters will be affected by a particular attribute. (Source.). 2. In addition, if there are OpenType features, there will be a small "o" icon on the bottom of a frame when it is selected with the Selection tool. The control is now visible as a gear icon on the right end of the Control panel above the panel menu. The 'nlck' feature is used to access those glyphs. Go to your CC app Thanks Barb! (Source.). Synonyms: arrogance, conceit, haughtiness, hauteur, pride, self-importance, egotism, pomposity, superciliousness, superiority. What about endnotes? Indesign needs OpenType features to be able to access those alternates. All rights reserved. This article is from November 2, 2016, and is no longer current. To enable it with the font-kerning property, use the value normal. To enable it with thefont-variantproperty orfont-variant-positionsubproperty, use the value sub. Note that there may be more than one stylistic alternate for a given character. Choosing this option establishes a document default for all footnotes to span the width of the frame. (Source.). Theres a clue in another area. In the latter case, these alterations are actually necessary to properly express the language, so they go beyond the more stylistic preference of most other OpenType features. The OT properties can work with extended fonts from other foundries, but you already have access to many Adobe Pro fonts. Ive been exploring Affinity lately. 2. When that get more disappears, as it seems to be doing with ID, any rationale for paying more goes away. I dont want to condemn them to Adobes dreadful InDesign development limbo. Ligatures are glyphs that replace two or more separate glyphs in order to represent them more smoothly (from a spacing or aesthetic perspective). Install Font Option One -. The original font I tried was Lato. (If your frame doesnt contain an OpenType font, youll get the message, OpenType properties are not applicable.). Setting a value of normal resets all properties to their initial value. For 20 years Ive been asking for better graphs. You can see examples of a number of them above, and there are several resources available for finding more of them. The only way to enable it is with font-feature-settings, using the vhal feature tag. I would say even more: life is more funny with these issues! Its that they envision a future when your ability to effectively complain is rendered almost impossible. (Source.). Why my opentype features are not visible in the quick access dropdown in Indesign? Quark moved all its operations from the Western USA to India, expressed complete disdain for the customer, and soon became obsolete. When users complain, some Apple executive will deliver a lecture on why they have no right to do so. Add an industrial engineer to the mix (Tim Cook) and you get stripped down, cheap-to-make products. (Source.). This feature re-spaces glyphs designed to be set on full-em heights, fitting them onto half-em heights. I have a same issue. It's just good to know what you have and the possibility that it may change as features are added or kerning pairs and outlines are tweaked that the font you have may not be the same as what someone else has. That makes them particularly mysterious, because you have to experiment to discover what the set actually does. E.g. In the end and from the perspective of users, Adobe and Apple have similar problems. The latter change would not be that great. NOT HAPPY. There are two types of fractions supported through this property: Ordinals are also supported (such as '1st' or '3rd'), as is a slashed zero if present in the font. The half widths feature isdisabled by default, and is not supported in any version of Safari on Mac OS or iOS. The problem of the InDesign SDK appears to be related to the fact that all the prerelease programs in Adobe have been migrating from an old platform to a new platform the past few months. Aside from the UI and the charting, they already have everything else! Indesign Opentype Properties Are Not Relevant. My colleague Roland Dreger has just open-sourced its terrific OpenType Features palette for InDesign, an awesome script that lets you globally control the OpenType attributes of any installed font "without flyouts, dropdowns, and the like.". But its just a fantasy; I cant imagine enough people getting together to do that. They should call this one InDesign head & foot. I was worried that they had choked export of HTML. Do the stylistic sets not show up in the opentype menu of the character palette? Continue to step 4. (Source.). My first example is five glyphs and can be edited. Its nothing to do with the mouse and everything to do with the function of those boxes in the Control Panel. But maybe you have a different sense of the term in mind. The switch to monthly subscription was a TERRIBLE thing for users and a GREAT thing for Adobes cash flow. This feature replaces numeral glyphs set on glyph-specific (proportional) widths with corresponding glyphs set on uniform (tabular) widths. This feature turns uppercase characters into small capitals. I suspect Apple has changed the rules for clicks in some obscure way but not bothered to tell us. These are capital letters sized to fit better amongst lower case letters and are generally used for acronyms and abbreviations. Apples upper management seems afflicted with artsy minimalism. Here is an example of oldstyle and lining figures (the font is Garamond Premier Pro): (It is the same font, only on the upper line the OpenType feature of oldstyle figures is activated.) A $20/month plan with ID and either any other major app or Photoshop only. In this scenario all v1.4.1 OTF fonts are replaced by TTF and InDesign file indicates OpenType properties are not applicable. - Then read the end of the article where I explain how to open a CC 2017 file in an earlier CC version. Cost over performance is a major factor. 'Oldstyle' figures are mixed height and designed to have the appearance of ascenders and descenders like other lower case letters. To achieve the same effect withfont-feature-settings, use the smcp feature tag. I can choose more than one paragraph, but when I try to make a formatting change the section to type in the amount of space, or the font size, etc is grayed out. My hunch, depressing as it is, is that the move to India was intended to create a development team that will passively endure being underfunded. For some reason the dialogue box in Control is greyed and it deletes the text in the text box. And no ability to easily accomplish non-consecutive footnote numbers for excerpted material in casebooks. To enable it with thefont-variantproperty orfont-variant-ligaturessubproperty, use the valuecontextual. In addition, there are two new Align options: arrowheads can be aligned so the arrowhead extends beyond the path end, or aligns just to the end of the path. For the OpenType features I needed them to just play around with different styles and ligatures. What is happening here is that now we all get to spend lots of $$$ on updating scripts and extensions because features have been deprecated and all we get is a slight improvement to footnotes and arrow heads? ThanksBrad @ Roaring Mousefor that insight! Example of alternate annotation forms in action, set inKozuka Mincho Pr6n: This feature replaces default glyphs with various notational forms (e.g. Absolutely agreed. I have to freeze a books notes on submission because, once finalized, changing the numbering is a pain. Footnotes: What about the legibility crime and visual disturbance when using footnotes extended to the width of text area (the spanning column gadget)? The oldstyle figures feature isdisabled by default. and for them to do something about the godawful Charts feature in Illustrator. If its anything like Photos and Designer, Adobe should be nervous. (Source.). =D, When the floppy-disk disappeared computers! Subscriber services. What about learning how to break URLs correctly? Adobe provides a great way to quickly test your fonts. Adobe is playing much the same game. Theres nothing in this annual upgrade that Ill even use, much less need. This was my first AdobeMAX and I thought it was fantastic. In previous InDesign versions, if a font had named stylistic sets, only their numbers were displayed, and the names were ignored. Adobe needs to make a choice. Very interesting! Works on Mac, but sill not working on Windows, though. I have argued for serious, bread-and-butter production improvements, such as better control of line breaks, hyphenation, orphan control, etc. Nothing else was fixed, so most of the UI elements still take up 15-20% more space than they did in CC2015.3 and earlier. It looks likePublic Sans,Urbanist,Fira Sans, orObject Sanscould be a good overall alternative to Lato. Click Creative Cloud Can you package the file (which will include the fonts) and repost so that we can take a look? To achieve the same effect with font-feature-settings, use the trad feature tag. To achieve the same effect with font-feature-settings, use the jp83 feature tag. Two days using it and i had to shut it down twice. I have to do it one at a time. OpenType fractions allow you to do 1/3, 7/8, etc. I would have thought that by paying for an annual subscription we can do better than, er arrow heads. A tip is to always go back to the font's opensource webpage for the most updated version. Currently Im switching between my laptops trackpad, mashing the keyboard spacebar to get the pen to work, and then multiple-clicking the pen to get it to register. Associated CSS property: font-variant-caps. (Source.). Example of glyph composition/decomposition in action, set inset in Source Han Sans: To minimize the number of glyph alternates, it is sometimes desired to decompose a character into two glyphs. And yes, when i go into Character panel menu, OpenType, the feautures have sq brakets. After logging in you can close it and return to this page. It will not let me select more than one paragragh to change the space-after or the indentation. This feels semi-worthy of a .X release, not a major version release. In this example you can see two different typefaces, and the introduction of the @font-feature-values at-rule. and notice that the lower case 'a' reverts to its regular form and the lower case 'g's changes instead. Applying this to just the word 'My' alters the way the 'M' renders, and applying @styleset(alt-a) only changes the lower case 'a'. If I were on such a team Id do what the nurses I was working with did and quit in disgust. And it is precisely that attitude of boxing people in and depriving them of choices that is what unifies this elite across countries and across a wide spectrum of fields. (Source.). In some cases the localized form differs only subtly from the script 'norm', in others the forms are radically distinct. While this new release offers only incremental improvements, many of them are in response to long-standing feature requests. Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. I have never been so powerful! What were seeing might be called The Cologne Effect, after the horrors that were inflicted on young women in Colgne Square last New Years Eve. Proportional spacing is the normal setting, whereas tabular spacing lines up numerals evenly regardless of character width, making it more appropriate for lining up tables of numbers in financial tables. Did you license it from Linotype? Adobe seems to be forgetting that the chief reason commercial software can exist in an open source world is that many of us are will to pay more to get more. The login page will open in a new tab. Underneath, you see a preview of the alternate glyph simple a in Hypatia Sans Pro. But I must say the support from the Affinity team is excellent, as they actually answer emails! (Source.). To enable it with thefont-variantproperty orfont-variant-ligaturessubproperty, use the valuecommon-ligatures, which activates both common and contextual ligatures. Till then, Ill be using the new arrowheads and footnotes stuff, and encouraging everyone to contact Adobe with your thoughts about CC 2017. And, while this feature may be supported in Firefox, vertical text is not supported so its effectively unsupported. For them, wireless is simply magic, hence that name given to products. Example of proportional width in action, set inKozuka Mincho Pr6n: This feature replaces glyphs set on uniform widths (typically full or half-em) with proportionally spaced glyphs. I also believe that there are many improvements more important than those that have been added in this release such as enhance the Data Merge, import / export of layers between documents, improve and expand the panel overlays with new interactive applications InDesign is being stuck in the career of interactive documents and QuarkXpress has made great strides in that direction. In the case of lato, according to ther own website (https://www.latofonts.com/), the Lato you have from Google is the old v1.x versions. feature which I learned from user@jane-ein this post means they are not available with this typeface. Steve, thanks for the explanation re: the file format change. The vertical alternates feature isenabled by default, which means it should work without you having to write any CSS but its not enabled by default in any version of IE or Firefox. download - Select one of the locations listed below and download disg.exe to your computer in a folder such as C:\FontSign Download Link File Details - dsig.exe - 192KB self extracting file Windows 2000 and Windows NT users - You must have administrator privileges to use this tool. Im taking care not to get burned again if InDesign development continues underfunded and stalled. This new version is significant because its a major update that requires a new file format version. Some earlier OpenType fonts (such as the richly styled Gabriola font from Microsoft) may simply number the sets: Set 1, Set 2, Set 3, and so on. To achieve the same effect withfont-feature-settings, use the tnum feature tag. While most CJKV glyphs remain vertical when set in vertical writing mode, some take a different form (usually rotated and repositioned) for this purpose. Here, a good illustration is the dislike most Americans have for Obamacare. See also:Syntax for using multiple OpenType features. I was impressed with how committed they were to improving ID and how eager they were to listen to my suggestions. The following OpenType features help vertically-oriented text look better by re-spacing and replacing glyphs. 65 8 Can you clarify "used as part of a Composite font in InDesign"? font-feature-settings is the 'low level syntax' that allows explicit access to every named available OpenType feature. To enable it with the font-variant property or font-variant-east-asian subproperty, use the value jis83. Some type foundries offer documentation about how features are organized. #3, to scale both Start and End in proportion, click the Lock option. Figure 8 shows an example of two alternate glyphs for the letter a, one of the many sets included in Hypatia Sans Pro. The only way to enable it is with font-feature-settings, using the vpal feature tag. Put the design of products under artists (Jonathan Ive) and you get products that are artsy. Example of ordinals in action, set inWarnock Pro. They took a few pixels out of the palette tab height, but even that size is still larger than it used to be. Syntax for OpenType features in CSS Font technology We'll cover individual OpenType features in detail on this page, with specific examples of each. Ive got my own fix on order, a 440GB SSD from Other World Computing that set me back only $200. And some versions of Chrome and Firefox have trouble with ligatures that contain spaces. Example of ruby notation forms in action, set inKozuka Mincho Pr6n: Japanese typesetting often uses smaller kana glyphs, generally in superscripted form, to clarify the meaning of kanji which may be unfamiliar to the reader. For those of us who still do book design and typesetting, the improved footnotes (with more improvements on the way, apparently) is great news and well overdue. (Source.). And, while this feature may be supported in Firefox, vertical text is not supported so its effectively unsupported. Until now, Ive always been the one with the later versions than my clients; now its the other way around. There are various contexts in which this is the preferred behavior, including compatibility with older desktop documents. (Source.). Finally Adobe are giving some features not updated in a very long time some attention! I didnt get anything out of the Indesign sessions (other than the thought that I should be teaching) but the other labs and sessions were very useful. This is a typographic optimization for improved fit and more even color. Companies live or die by how they are organized and the incentitives they establish for executives. This setting applies both to the beginning and ending arrowheads. Example of proportional kana in action, set inKozuka Mincho Pr6n: This feature replaces kana and kana-related glyphs set on uniform widths (half or full-width) with proportional glyphs. The one where I worked was the top-tier childrens hospital for one quarter the land area of the U.S. Its going to fund a host of flashy new schemes that undoubtely look good displayed on screen and that stroke the egos of Adobe executives. I spend hours doing that. Were not being forced to kill one another until only one is left standing. Itd list the most recent styles assigned. The easiest is to rename your glyphs like this (Edit > Find > Find and Replace): Then open Font Info > Features and press the Update button in the lower left. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7d2885a6ddf72a53 Yet this release is so pitiful it looks like all that Adobe has accomplished in ID enhancement over almost 18 months was what a couple of developers might do working 8 to 5. Im still waiting to see their publishing app, but if anyone can make something that works decently, and free us from paying monthly tributes to the emperor Adobe, I can easily imagine millions of people jumping at the first chance they get. How did you name the alternate letters? Thatd be a lot better than dancing all over the screen with a mouse, clicking here and there endlessly. If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe added just enough to say, we know youre there, but we care not for your needs., Affinity is here: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/. So although these OT features may be supported and working properly, if vertical orientationis not also supported and working properlywell, these features dont matter. Note that there may be more than one swash alternate for a given character. The proportional width feature isdisabled by default, and is not supported in any version of Safari on Mac OS or iOS. There is your answer, when there are square brackets around the option they are not available in that specific font Best to try another, extended, OT Font. The little widgets attached to objects in the InDesign interface (such as the in and out ports of text frames) are technically called adornments. When enabled, this feature inserts the ligatures which the designer/manufacturer judges should be used in normal conditions. This feature identifies glyphs in the font which have been designed for this use, substituting them for the default designs. Another would make assigning paragraph styles faster. It seems to me like Adobe has missed a HUGE business opportunity by ignoring that obvious market. Extremely disappointed in this release. And a search on Youtube will turn up some demos. There is a reason. Rafa Buchner Posts: 16 October 2021 edited October 2021 in Font Technology Hi, I'm having issue: I'm working on VF font that has some named stylistic sets. If I were near Adobe MAX I would go there with a protest sign. Ligatures are available to you in Avenir Light. Example of half widths in action, set inKozuka Mincho Pr6n: This feature replaces glyphs on proportional widths, or fixed widths other than half an em, with glyphs on half-em (en) widths. I think that the folder is Program Files/Adobe/Adobe Indesign/Fonts. However, its rumoured that it will go to beta in 2017. Ive written a book on administrative follies in another context. I must wrestle with ones that have several thousand endnotes. The issue with using font-feature-settings for everything is that every time you want to change one of the individual features, you have to redefine the entire string (similar to manipulating variable fonts with font-variation-settings). Furthermore, it cannot be disabled in Safari (Mac or iOS). Please log in again. This feature may replace a default glyph with a subscript glyph, or it may combine a glyph substitution with positioning adjustments for proper placement. It makes one wonder. Ten Mincho: important points on updating from Version 1.000, Proportional Alternate Vertical Metrics (vpal), Syntax for using multiple OpenType features, Southeast Asia (Includes Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam) - English, - . (Source.). To the extent that there was a single cause, it lay in promoting people too stupid to make it as nurses into the lowest level of nursing administration. The alternate vertical half metrics feature isdisabled by default, and is not supported in any version of IE, Firefox, or Safari on Mac OS or iOS. (Source.). It is similar to the proportional widths feature, but only affects kana. Long ago, people used the expression red-headed stepchild to refer to the neglected kid in a family. Sound familiar? (Source.). At least your ID CC subscription isnt funding the development of self-driving electric cars or drone delivery. To achieve the same effect withfont-feature-settings, use the frac feature tag. I'm not sure what your issue is, which version of InDesign and OS do you have? For instance, I have a text box that has OpenType font in it but when I click on the icon it says "OpenType properties are not applicable" and when I try to add it to my document over top of a graphic box, the text disappears. Unlock them and you'll find ways to make fonts look and behave differently in subtle and dramatic ways. Other more recent fonts give meaningful names that make them easier and more efficient to work with. Thank you for sharing your file. Axis-praxis.org also offers a similar capability, with the ability to click on the features to turn them on or off in a given text block. Im relieved and honestly, a little surprised that Adobe has corrected their mis-step regarding the interface preferences. Strangely, the new OpenType adornment is not listed there. For now, well skip thefont-variantproperty because its named values (of which there are no good examples) are mapped to numeric stylistic alternate indices by font-feature-value CSS definitions, which are not yet supported in any major browser. This feature replaces numeral glyphs set on uniform (tabular) widths with corresponding glyphs set on glyph-specific (proportional) widths. This week they sent a link for a new set of tools for Designer and also the chance to purchase their manual at 20% discount, and they keep people posted as to improvements, etc.. and just to rub salt on the wounds, I have just found out that one of my custom extensions will no longer work with 2017 because they dont support Flash any more! I gripe that Apple is increasingly being driven by its marketing department. When enabled, this feature inserts those ligatures which may be used for special effect. Even when I go to the Lato page on Google Fonts or Adobe Fonts it doesn't tell me whether it supports opentype and in the text sample previews it doesn't seem to have any way to verify the fraction display. To enable it with the font-variant property or font-variant-east-asian subproperty, use the value jis04. To admit those attacks occurred was, for this elite, to admit that they were wrong to bring in a huge number of mostly poorly educated, single young males from a part of the world where women are treated badly. Disappointing, I am looking forward to Affinity Publisher. (There were five versions of InDesign CC 2015. To override the document default, select Enable Overrides, and check or uncheck Span Footnotes Across Columns. For example, you can choose alternate glyphs for numbers, fractions, or ligature sets. Example of tabular figures in action, set inHypatia Sans Pro. So, I wont really be able to use this new upgrade until these developers have had time to rewrite their software. Note: This on-context adornment is not available for threaded text frames. Ive maxed out my 2012 Mac mini because I suspect I may never see a good desktop from Apple again. You can see how this is taking shapebut browser support just isnt there at the moment. Even features like alternate rounded corners were possible with scripts before they were built in. Correct--but it is included in the Adobe Font Folio CD. For example, two different fonts may employ the same feature (like ss01) to replace totally different sets of glyphs; or, a particular font may use ss01 and ss03 to replace sets of glyphs, but ignore ss02. I cant tell, but if that is so then it is in low-level one box in that chart with no less that five boxes further up that have marketing in their name. The stylistic sets feature isdisabled by default. openxml opentype This differs from pwid in that it does not substitute new glyphs (GPOS, not GSUB feature). Tried the blank approach, but still the same result. Again no support? Opentype properties are not available RaoulPat January 9, 2022, 7:44am #1 I exported my typeface to an OTF file, transferred it to my Windows PC and double-clicked on it and installed it. For a broader overview of how to enable OpenType features in your web projects and use them in CSS, see our help doc onusing OpenType features in CSS. Some OpenType fonts with many alternate characters have them grouped into stylistic sets. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. Apple is partly to blame for that iOS-to-macOS UI deficiency. Senior Nurse Mentor builds on my experience working at a top-ten childrens hospital where the nurses were so badly treated, some 20% quit in a matter of weeks and finding replacements became almost impossible. Anything that could be d. To enable it with the font-variant property or font-variant-east-asian subproperty, use the value ruby. They can be OpenType Pro with more glyphs or just 'standard', that is still OpenType. Flashy stuff to brag about to an inner circle. They are grouped and explained here according to the main attributes and options covered in the W3C specifications. Because of this, it's best to use the standard properties shown above wherever possible. No conversion was necessary between those versions.) Font features or variants refer to different glyphs or character styles contained within an OpenType font. I Expected more advances in digital format publications such as mentioned HTML5 or expand the interactive features of the Overlays panel and especially better interactivity with Adobe PhoneGap as does into Dreamweaver. Ive the same issu but only with older indd files. Sometimes it does another. They figured it would satisfy those of us wanting type improvements but it just shows that they dont really even know anything about how people use the product. Currently, this feature is only available for the English language. But this 2017 release is so pitiful, I cant believe that anymore. They let you choose options in context instead of going to a menu or dialog box. The only way to enable it is with font-feature-settings, using the halt feature tag. Though looking at Linotype's website, Kristin does support fractions as an OpenType feature. (see 2). For a new document, the Span Footnotes option is selected by default, but you can match the old behavior by deselecting the option with no documents open. Apparently Publisher is to be in beta in 2017. Thatd be a $20/month plan that includes InDesign and one other major app, either of the users choice or perhaps Photoshop only. Turning preferences on or off does not help either. As I watched the Adobe Max keynote run in the background, I realized where ID users money is going. For the amount one pays for subscription, html + css + Prince is becoming more an more attractive. Youll see them in the Glyphs panel Show menu (which displays glyphs by their attributes), in the Character and Control panel menus (OpenType > Stylistic Sets), and in the Character Styles and Paragraph Styles OpenType Features entries. Selecting a region changes the language and/or content on Adobe.com. Click the icon to see a list of OpenType features available. That was a typing error on my part from too much cut-and-paste while writing the response. Glad they sorted this out in such short order. The proportional variants are often used for the Latin characters in CJKV fonts, but may also be used for Kana in Japanese fonts. The sales of both are down because increasingly innovation at Apple means something that seems intended for what storybook writers call, children of all ages.. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. As to the "why", it's controlled by what the type designer chooses to create (or not create). The other CC app I find myself wanting most often is the marvelous Photoshop. Youre not to have options or choices. Mais avec surtout une trs grande pliade de scripteurs et dexperts passionns qui le secondent en permanence avec talent, des sites et des forums remarquables, comme indesignsecrets.com ou encore ceux dAdobe !. If not, I assume an installation problem. The ruby notation forms feature isdisabled by default. This feature is not enabled by default in Chrome or Safari, but using any font-feature-settings value will enable it. Search for my name (Perry) and youll find a fix that involved turning off Apples Handoff feature that works with some people, although certainly not all. In my case, it fixed problems with BT keyboard disconnects and the BT mouse making the cursor jump all over. That said, even though this is considered a major update, longtime users will be disappointed to hear that there are very few new features in this release. I cannot get the Open Type contextual controls to show up no matter what. How about the ability to have italics in a running head? (Meaning that if kerning is on by default, it will still be on even with a value of none being supplied here.). Hello everyone, I have run into a problem while trying the OpenType properties out on a presentation I am combining in InDesign now. Will Quark ou Affinity import inDesign files? For a broader overview of how to enable OpenType features in your web projects and use them in CSS, see our help doc on using OpenType features in CSS. See also:Syntax for using multiple OpenType features and Note: about vertical features. Nevertheless, if youre doing a book with hundreds of pages that has multi-column, or run-on, footnotes, Footwork is definitely the way to go even for CC 2017 users! Heres I did for years, without installing any scripts or plug-ins, it has worked perfectly for me. I have high hopes for the Lato Medium working and what you said made perfect sense. Steve, you mention a new file format version. (There were five versions of InDesign CC 2015. This is an excellent feature request. I think InDesign as typesetting software should be able to handle basic text functions and even some sophisticated text functions! Correct me if thats wrongand I may be. I can imagine a scenario where Adobe made it so easy to create attractive graphs in InDesign that corporate administrative people all over the world stopped making those ugly PowerPoint and Excel graphs and became CC subscribers. To achieve the same effect with font-feature-settings, use the jp04 feature tag. Maybe you just cant leave it blank? Really disappointed with what Ive read about this update. I did not go quietly but, given what soon happened, I sometimes wonder if I should have departed with a bit more noise. If most of the users are non-Indian, how can they understand our needs? That seemed unlikely, although I did shift to an ID-only CC plan to drive home where my money should be gping. They are all defined and shown here, but many will only work using the lower-level font-feature-settings property. Now they are named wherever they are referenced in InDesign. Im closing comments to this thread. See also:Note: about vertical features. Thats a long article for such poor release again. In the quoted example (above) the number of characters are upon 20, when legibility decency asks for no more than 12-14 per line! To achieve the same effect with font-feature-settings, use the pwid feature tag. It is easy enough, based on what I learned from the video you provided, to click the "O" (I always wondered what that was, but never "needed" to know until now) and see. This eliminates the task of selecting each alternate character individually, which is time consuming in large amounts of text. It seems that you have managed the first. Adobe fonts [usually] have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Figure 5: A new OpenType adornment gives you in context control of OpenType features. This feature replaces a sequence of glyphs with a single glyph, called a ligature, which is preferred for typographic purposes. two minor features? Footnote functionality has stayed the same since CS2 (!!). Likecontextual alternates, contextual ligatures have built-in conditional logic that applies replacement glyphs only in specific situations. If your response to these moves in the job market (EU), in hardware (Apple), software (Adobe), or the creative arts (Amazon) is to ask but where else can I go, then youve captured the essence of this problem. Its nothing like the ID team in Seattle I knew, where one developer emailed me from work on a Saturday morning. There are some cases like with font-variant-east-asian that OpenType features are directly tied to using different forms of certain glyphs, which can impact meaning and readability. Or even use Emoji in an InDesign layout? For example, Hypatia Sans Pro has 14 stylistic sets with names such as Stylistic set: sans serif forms, Stylistic set: simple lowercase forms, and so on. To enable it withfont-feature-settings, use the swsh feature tag. Similarly, if you select a number such as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc., the menu suggests the ordinal versions if they are available in the current font. Dedicated community for Japanese speakers. Even with the move of ID development to India, I suspect that people who work on a app still care about it. These are called ruby, from the old typesetting term for four-point-sized type. That is a useful improvement. In the InDesign CC 2014.2 update (January 2014), a new feature made opening files from newer versions possible if you have a Creative Cloud subscription. There may be more. Delighted to see footnote get some love. Jerri: I havent seen that. Copyright 2023 Adobe. If you want a parallel, imagine a world where carpenters can no longer purchase useful tools. At that point, Adobe will either sue them, buy them, or invest some money in InDesign. No conversion was necessary between those versions.) Sep 12, 2021 Hi, I just installed Adobe InDesign on a new computer (Windows 10 with 32 RAM) where no matter what font I use, my fonts end up looking something like the attached picture below and I get the message "OpenType Properties are not applicable." How do I either fix or work around this issue? Example of swashes in action, set inBree. - This is NOT a pro font it is a FREE Google font, but Adobe also has a version (confusing). ID is starting to look like Creative Clouds red-headed stepchild. This elite wants to move up by pushing others down. I agree with you, I can live without the footnotes, improving hyperlinks, OpenType fonts, or arrows I know that we cant please everyone, but i thought they were going to bring deeper improvements we asking for years as export and import layers between documents, improve the Data Merge panel, and above all advance interactive digital documents as it is doing QuarkXPress that exports to HTML5 format without additional plugins. Example of swashes in action, set inBickham Script Pro 3. They dont give a crap about endnotes. If ID development is going to continue to be this underfunded and slow, then it needs to charge $10/month for a single-user license. Another reason a major upgrade is a PITA for those of us who use a lot of plugins it forces the plugin makers to upgrade all of their software, and often we have to pay for upgrades, and all for what? et jadore les gteaux la crme !!! InDesign est un soft fantastique ! Its not mainstream but on forums I frequent its piqued my interest and Ive dabbled in it. Also note that the position and size of ruby text will vary across browsers/versions; consider disabling browser defaults with areset stylesheetand sizing/positioning ruby text manually. again? See also:Note: about vertical features. Youre lucky. In everything that I read, I had not found that statement anywhere, that opensource fonts were constantly changing. Wrap it in a new, presentations-oriented UI, export to PDF, and purchase or develop a killer charting tool (a seriously good one, please) than can also be used with AI and PS, and you can kill PowerPoint. Troubleshooting guide: Adding fonts to a website, Using web fonts in HTML email or newsletters, Using web fonts with Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP), Customize web font performance with font-display settings. Use Lato Medium (from fonts.adobe.com). This page was last modified on May 24, 2023 by MDN contributors. I cannot use CC2017 until MultiFindChange, Typefitter, and DTP Tools, to name just 3 of several, are fully functional. NOTE: If there is not a Unblock button there, then the font has not been blocked. Discovering availability of features in fonts, Using CSS feature detection for implementation, Assessment: Fundamental CSS comprehension, Assessment: Creating fancy letterheaded paper, Assessment: Typesetting a community school homepage, Assessment: Fundamental layout comprehension, https://www.w3.org/TR/css-fonts-4/#propdef-font-variant-alternates, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/font-variant-alternates, 'The Complete CSS Demo for OpenType Features', The Complete CSS Demo for OpenType Features, Font Feature Properties in CSS Fonts Module Level 3, font-variant-alternatives in CSS Fonts Module Level 4, Adobe's Syntax for OpenType features in CSS. 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